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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t shoot the messenger by anotherblogger</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/dont-shoot-the-messenger/#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>anotherblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I think the person behind the name badge does often get overlooked. I know I would not relish doing what you and your colleague had to do. I guess everyone is too busy reeling from the news to consider the person who&#039;s had to psych themselves up to tell it. It also means the skill of doing it well and properly gets lost.  Hope it gets better where you work and you can be the bearer of better news soon. 

As to the it being the lazy ones who seem most scared. I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s true but then again, maybe lazy have an instinct for knowing when they&#039;ve got it good and are the least happy when the gravy train is kicking them off for fare dodging.  Plus, being lazy, the prospect of job hunting sounds like too much hard-work. They&#039;d much rather just tread water and hope no one notices.

My partner and I are now in the weird position of being nervous that they DON&#039;T make his team redundant. We&#039;re rather looking forward to cycling round the world on his redundancy pay. Have you ever had someone punch the air at being told they&#039;re being made redundant? I imagine HR have seen it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I think the person behind the name badge does often get overlooked. I know I would not relish doing what you and your colleague had to do. I guess everyone is too busy reeling from the news to consider the person who&#8217;s had to psych themselves up to tell it. It also means the skill of doing it well and properly gets lost.  Hope it gets better where you work and you can be the bearer of better news soon. </p>
<p>As to the it being the lazy ones who seem most scared. I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s true but then again, maybe lazy have an instinct for knowing when they&#8217;ve got it good and are the least happy when the gravy train is kicking them off for fare dodging.  Plus, being lazy, the prospect of job hunting sounds like too much hard-work. They&#8217;d much rather just tread water and hope no one notices.</p>
<p>My partner and I are now in the weird position of being nervous that they DON&#8217;T make his team redundant. We&#8217;re rather looking forward to cycling round the world on his redundancy pay. Have you ever had someone punch the air at being told they&#8217;re being made redundant? I imagine HR have seen it all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t shoot the messenger by drunkenspaniel</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/dont-shoot-the-messenger/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>drunkenspaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Another. Thanks for your post. 
The important thing is - I do have a heart. Losing your job is a horrible thing, and what I wanted to try and get across in my post (and obviously failed miserably!) is that the people who have worked hard and do a great job are the ones who get hit the hardest. The people who have contributed hugely to the situation they now find themselves in because they haven&#039;t been pulling their weight are the ones who don&#039;t seem to have noticed it coming, have very little concept of how the others might feel about it, and are just out for what they can get. 

To be perfectly honest, I don&#039;t expect people to thank me. That&#039;s not my job - but to have someone sensible delivering the news in the right way is so much better than the alternative. 

I wanted people to know that I&#039;m only a person too. I feel too. 
But it seems that since I deliver bad news for a living, I must be a cold evil husk of a person. It makes people feel better to believe that. 

And I&#039;m so not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Another. Thanks for your post.<br />
The important thing is &#8211; I do have a heart. Losing your job is a horrible thing, and what I wanted to try and get across in my post (and obviously failed miserably!) is that the people who have worked hard and do a great job are the ones who get hit the hardest. The people who have contributed hugely to the situation they now find themselves in because they haven&#8217;t been pulling their weight are the ones who don&#8217;t seem to have noticed it coming, have very little concept of how the others might feel about it, and are just out for what they can get. </p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, I don&#8217;t expect people to thank me. That&#8217;s not my job &#8211; but to have someone sensible delivering the news in the right way is so much better than the alternative. </p>
<p>I wanted people to know that I&#8217;m only a person too. I feel too.<br />
But it seems that since I deliver bad news for a living, I must be a cold evil husk of a person. It makes people feel better to believe that. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m so not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t shoot the messenger by anotherblogger</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/dont-shoot-the-messenger/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>anotherblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no one thanked you as you left after telling them their jobs are gone and you&#039;re calling THEM selfish? 

I realise the job you had to do must be very hard. I really do. It&#039;s not the sort of thing I would like to do by any means. I knew I wouldn&#039;t like your angle, though after the first paragraph:

&quot;No-one likes the news that they may not have a job in 6 weeks time. But...&quot; 

that first sentence, only ONE sentence in fact, immediately followed by a &#039;but&#039; made my heart sink because it&#039;s such an understatement and to put a but in after only 15 words was unkind. 

Maybe I&#039;m a little sensitive because my partner has been told by HR that they will formally announce redundancies at the end of August. 6 weeks is not a lot of time, so that they gave the team a heads-up about it early was kinda nice. The team sort of expected it as soon as they heard HR was coming down from Manchester for an announcement but they were thinking of all the OTHER things it could be because it&#039;s damn scary to know the plug is being pulled on you  - even worse when you know it&#039;s happening all over so finding a new job quickly isn&#039;t that likely. Redundancy might not look so bad from where you&#039;re sitting but that&#039;s because it&#039;s not happening to YOU. 

In my partner&#039;s case, he hated his job already so doesn&#039;t really mind. He was going to early next year anyway, so it works out well for him but when he talks of how it&#039;s affected the team in his office: the fears, the shake of confidence and the concern about their and their familys&#039; futures, it&#039;s kinda heart-breaking. People are afraid. 

So have a heart. Losing your job is more than just something &#039;no one likes&#039;, it feels shitty, really scary, too. If people start acting selfishly, it&#039;s because the company has said: you&#039;re on your own now.  Being made redundant affects one very personally and team dissolves, so selfishness is probably the most appropriate reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one thanked you as you left after telling them their jobs are gone and you&#8217;re calling THEM selfish? </p>
<p>I realise the job you had to do must be very hard. I really do. It&#8217;s not the sort of thing I would like to do by any means. I knew I wouldn&#8217;t like your angle, though after the first paragraph:</p>
<p>&#8220;No-one likes the news that they may not have a job in 6 weeks time. But&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>that first sentence, only ONE sentence in fact, immediately followed by a &#8216;but&#8217; made my heart sink because it&#8217;s such an understatement and to put a but in after only 15 words was unkind. </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m a little sensitive because my partner has been told by HR that they will formally announce redundancies at the end of August. 6 weeks is not a lot of time, so that they gave the team a heads-up about it early was kinda nice. The team sort of expected it as soon as they heard HR was coming down from Manchester for an announcement but they were thinking of all the OTHER things it could be because it&#8217;s damn scary to know the plug is being pulled on you  &#8211; even worse when you know it&#8217;s happening all over so finding a new job quickly isn&#8217;t that likely. Redundancy might not look so bad from where you&#8217;re sitting but that&#8217;s because it&#8217;s not happening to YOU. </p>
<p>In my partner&#8217;s case, he hated his job already so doesn&#8217;t really mind. He was going to early next year anyway, so it works out well for him but when he talks of how it&#8217;s affected the team in his office: the fears, the shake of confidence and the concern about their and their familys&#8217; futures, it&#8217;s kinda heart-breaking. People are afraid. </p>
<p>So have a heart. Losing your job is more than just something &#8216;no one likes&#8217;, it feels shitty, really scary, too. If people start acting selfishly, it&#8217;s because the company has said: you&#8217;re on your own now.  Being made redundant affects one very personally and team dissolves, so selfishness is probably the most appropriate reaction.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wedding! by drunkenspaniel</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/wedding/#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>drunkenspaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!
Liz - My mum made and iced the cake. We were very lucky!
Had a great day. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!<br />
Liz &#8211; My mum made and iced the cake. We were very lucky!<br />
Had a great day. </p>
<p>xxxxxxxx</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wedding! by Liz</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/wedding/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg, congrats!!!!!! :) you guys look amazing. and so does your cake. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg, congrats!!!!!! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  you guys look amazing. and so does your cake. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Wedding! by hoverfrog</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/wedding/#comment-1335</link>
		<dc:creator>hoverfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch out, one of them&#039;s got a knife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch out, one of them&#8217;s got a knife.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wedding! by blue soup</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/wedding/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>blue soup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Think you know someone? by fraggle</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/think-you-know-someone/#comment-1332</link>
		<dc:creator>fraggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does shock me sometimes especially when someone you know well is accused of something and even though you know it can&#039;t possibly be true you start to think hmmm perhaps I don&#039;t know them as well as I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does shock me sometimes especially when someone you know well is accused of something and even though you know it can&#8217;t possibly be true you start to think hmmm perhaps I don&#8217;t know them as well as I thought.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Passport Rant by drunkenspaniel</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/04/30/passport-rant/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>drunkenspaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ranting paid off. 
I had a letter from them today asking me to confirm in writing that I&#039;m keeping my signature. 
I&#039;m still going to complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ranting paid off.<br />
I had a letter from them today asking me to confirm in writing that I&#8217;m keeping my signature.<br />
I&#8217;m still going to complain.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Passport Rant by hoverfrog</title>
		<link>http://drunkenspaniel.wordpress.com/2009/04/30/passport-rant/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>hoverfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many moons ago I used to work for the DVLA and I had to sign every letter that went out. My signature went from &quot;The Wondrous and Illustrious Magnificent Mr Frog&quot; to &quot;J&quot; after a week and has remained a illegible squiggle ever since.

Isn&#039;t it bad enough that you lose the name you were born to without having to change your signature too?  The rules state that you should use your normal signature.  There is nothing else about form or format other than the space it take up.

Kick the officious little snot up the rear for being such a jobsworth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many moons ago I used to work for the DVLA and I had to sign every letter that went out. My signature went from &#8220;The Wondrous and Illustrious Magnificent Mr Frog&#8221; to &#8220;J&#8221; after a week and has remained a illegible squiggle ever since.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it bad enough that you lose the name you were born to without having to change your signature too?  The rules state that you should use your normal signature.  There is nothing else about form or format other than the space it take up.</p>
<p>Kick the officious little snot up the rear for being such a jobsworth.</p>
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